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The Real Issue With Arranger Keyboards
My opinion on the real problem with arranger keyboards in general, such as the YAMAHA PSR, GENOS and Korg Pa Series.
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Видео

ARTURIA ASTROLAB DEMO featuring TR-8S
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Demo of ARTURIA ASTROLAB synthesizer stage keyboard and ROLAND TR-86 drum machine. MORE WOODY PIANO SHACK ► woodypianoshack.com #astrolab #tr8s #synthesizer “Down In The Park” Ashes Bass & Lead SOHouse “Sadeness” A Winter’s Night CR-78S “Dreamland” Lily’s Dream Sambawork “Christian” 3AM Rain CR-78S “Lemon Tree” Celestial Organs Flying Objects “Kids” Galaxy 6x6 Where’s Wally
Arrangers SUCK Playing Bass!
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Arrangers SUCK Playing Bass!
20 SMASH HITS ON SYNTH
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20 SMASH HITS ON SYNTH
KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // CHIC and KOOL
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KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // CHIC and KOOL
Just Playing Bruce Hornsby // ARTURIA ASTROLAB
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Just Playing Bruce Hornsby // ARTURIA ASTROLAB
ARTURIA ASTROLAB Unboxing, First Impressions & Demo
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ARTURIA ASTROLAB Unboxing, First Impressions & Demo
KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // DANCE & EDM
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KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // DANCE & EDM
Avoid Sounding Cheesy On Arranger Keyboard
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Avoid Sounding Cheesy On Arranger Keyboard
Insane American Car Culture in Rural Sweden
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Insane American Car Culture in Rural Sweden
Does D-05 Have The ROLAND D50 Magic?
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Does D-05 Have The ROLAND D50 Magic?
KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // Gloria Estefan vs Santana
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KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // Gloria Estefan vs Santana
KORG Pa5X // Three Outstanding Features
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KORG Pa5X // Three Outstanding Features
KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // They Had Some Fun With This!!
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KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // They Had Some Fun With This!!
KORG MINILOGUE // Fixing The Useless Knobs
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KORG MINILOGUE // Fixing The Useless Knobs
The Instant Inspiration Machines // AIRA COMPACT J-6 // WAVESTATE
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The Instant Inspiration Machines // AIRA COMPACT J-6 // WAVESTATE
KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // Name That Tune!
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KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // Name That Tune!
The Best ROLAND D50 Sounds You Never Heard Before
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The Best ROLAND D50 Sounds You Never Heard Before
Roland Launch NEW FANTOM EX So I'll Buy The Old One
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Roland Launch NEW FANTOM EX So I'll Buy The Old One
KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // Hej Jude to Hendrix
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KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // Hej Jude to Hendrix
KORG Pa5X Ultimate Quickstart TUTORIAL
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KORG Pa5X Ultimate Quickstart TUTORIAL
Roland Release Kick-Ass Synth and NOBODY NOTICES
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Roland Release Kick-Ass Synth and NOBODY NOTICES
Seven More MYSTERY SYNTH PICKUPS
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Seven More MYSTERY SYNTH PICKUPS
An Old Friend Returns To The Shack
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An Old Friend Returns To The Shack
KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // Foo Fighters with Tom Petty
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KORG Pa5X Styles Demo // Foo Fighters with Tom Petty
ARTURIA ASTROLAB // Reality check after the hype
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ARTURIA ASTROLAB // Reality check after the hype
ARTURIA ASTROLAB Incredible Announcement // WOODY REACTS
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ARTURIA ASTROLAB Incredible Announcement // WOODY REACTS
KORG Pa5X Got Me Copyright Strike
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KORG Pa5X Got Me Copyright Strike
KORG Pa5X Is Here! Unboxing, First Impressions and Demo
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KORG Pa5X Is Here! Unboxing, First Impressions and Demo
ON THE HUNT // Woody's Synth Watchlist
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ON THE HUNT // Woody's Synth Watchlist

Комментарии

  • @JKVisFX
    @JKVisFX 8 часов назад

    Arranger keyboards definitely are not for me. I'm not a keyboardist or performer, I'm a remixer/cover guy; I like to remix or recreate songs I like. That process is, given my lack of keyboard skills, entirely with a mouse and QUERTY keyboard. What I need are synthesizers. They style of music I work in tends to be very masculine, intense, dark, driving, and above all, very electronic-proudly, unapologetically electronic. Having said that, I agree completely, having a comprehensive, DAW-like tool to create my own styles on a per-song basis would be pretty fantastic. Basically, take a Fantom or a Montage and load up arranger keyboard-like styles on to instruments. On the computer end, open them up in this style-creator DAW, and with all of the sound-sculpting tools available in the synths, build up your own styles. Then upload your custom styles either to the synths or to the given manufacturers arranger keyboard equivalents for gigging with. I can also see that, by the nature of the beast, creating your own styles would be unavoidingly complex given all of the accompaniment you would have to program into each style which would indeed require a strong understanding of not just music theory and arranging skills but, the formatting and setup that the synth or arranger requires. My main gig is video post production and motion graphics and animation. Like creating full musical arrangements, creating 2D and 3D art, imbuing them with motion, integrating them into live action footage, editing multiple clips together with the goal of telling a story, by nature is a complex task requiring, not just the understanding of how to turn the knobs, but how to compose imagery and edit them together to tell a story. The tools can be made as user-friendly as is realistically possible in such complex software but, you still need the theory and skills to be able to make effective use of those tools. I see building musical arrangements into styles for an arranger keyboard has a lot in common where needing knowledge, skill and talent is of utmost importance and, by it's inherent complexity, will always be a complex, time-consume task-a fun one to be sure-but, yeah.

  • @ghgh-de5mx
    @ghgh-de5mx 10 часов назад

    ❤❤❤ офгиительно

  • @ratzingerratzinger4496
    @ratzingerratzinger4496 11 часов назад

    I’m on shrooms can I get this full song or a play list this is next level shit 😂😂

  • @roymoxley2587
    @roymoxley2587 12 часов назад

    So it has classic arrangements in it Then make your own arrangements Stop crying or get a different keyboard

  • @JusADreadhead
    @JusADreadhead 15 часов назад

    Levitation at its finest

  • @martinbarrett6249
    @martinbarrett6249 15 часов назад

    What a great sound, classic D50 type sound. What a keyboard the D50 was.

  • @FIBONICITY
    @FIBONICITY 16 часов назад

    Love your t shirt. I want one. Are Korg power supplies interchangeable with many of their keyboards? Does it have straight good pianos? Any good woodwinds brass? Organs?

  • @BillyBanter100
    @BillyBanter100 16 часов назад

    Amazingly flexible and yet very limited at the same time. These instruments are very expensive for what they are. A bit of a throwback IMO.

  • @rz9wb
    @rz9wb 18 часов назад

    So if there is this much difference, do the studio, classic, le, pro x, extreme, and TR have any slight differences? As their components and hardware quality are slightly different?

  • @edwingamesandmusic
    @edwingamesandmusic 19 часов назад

    The step by step helped me get going on this device. Bounced off the mc-101 many times when just using the manual, but this vid worked for me. Thanks!

  • @IanCritchley-r9v
    @IanCritchley-r9v 20 часов назад

    Hate to have to mention this, regarding the keyboard quality. I have an 88 key Pa5X, the weighted keys that aren’t quite weighted like an actual piano but aren’t far off and it’s very nice to play. After a year one key started making a lot of noise as though something inside the case was coming loose. It went back under warranty and was away over 4 weeks, which was bad enough. No idea what they did to it but they managed to ruin the keyboard action. Keys sticking, the weighting wasn’t correct, all in all worse than the original fault. It’s away again now and I’ve been told it could be two months. The quality at new was great but I’m wondering what I’ve bought now. These things are not cheap and Korg don’t cover themselves in glory with after sales care.

  • @GizzyDillespee
    @GizzyDillespee 22 часа назад

    My favorite patch on the CK88 has "drums" like that, made from the Vox organ thru 2 instances of the slicer fx. It's a 3 timbre keyboard, so you get 2 more sounds to layer or split, and play on top of the "drums". For that, I usually use Hawaiian guitar and nylon guitar layered and distorted, but that's my own fault. It's nice to know I've got 40 years of Yamaha tradition to justify my patch depravity.

  • @Fl4ppers
    @Fl4ppers 23 часа назад

    One of those movie-tension sounds on there. Love that patch!

  • @rafalkowalewski3206
    @rafalkowalewski3206 23 часа назад

    Hello You are amazing. Why Pa5x and not Ketron for example? I would like you to compare them sometime... Great channel, always thumbs up.. Greets Rafal 🤝

  • @manu974aimwill
    @manu974aimwill 23 часа назад

    These keyboards needs more open/scratch personnal styles creator : - a piano roll editing in the style creator would help lot of us to create style - or a better integration with computer/DAW (MIDI to Style from Yamaha is a good step in this way) - more in box modern style POP/Rock/FusionJazz and less "exotic style", in extension why not

  • @russellc8282
    @russellc8282 День назад

    I wish i could play without sheet music like you can. 😢

  • @squeakD
    @squeakD День назад

    High end arrangers have always been kind of a mixed bag IMO. I agree that they are excellent song writing tools, but there certainly are a lot of song specific styles as well. Obviously editing a current style to suit your composition is the way to go, but again as Woody states, you’re still stuck with song specific parts of that style. I think the biggest issue that people don’t really talk about (that Woody did bring up) is the difficulty and TREMENDOUS task involved on any arranger when writing custom styles. Even if you have a professional arranger, and you build that style from bottom up, you’re going to be hard pressed trying to create a custom style to either match or exceed a preset style. You as the consumer will not have access to the tools the manufacturers used to create those styles, which are obviously not created using the keyboards internal style sequencer. Try as you might.., but you’ll never create guitar, bass, and drum tracks that match the presets because you don’t have access to the creation tools and software the manufacturers use. Those amazing styles are created and programmed externally. Also.., writing good FILLS that line up accurately is extremely difficult too. It can be done, but holy hell the amount of work involved in creating a complete style from start to finish is no easy task. I always tell people if you’re creating your own styles.., take advantage of some preset parts of a style., especially the guitar and drums. A lot of the guitar and drum parts in styles (even song specific styles) can easily work well in a user style and the finished style won’t sound song specific. Just be prepared to dive in and do some micro editing. I’ve been playing for over 40 years. I have arrangers, synth workstations, and a full computer set up with DAW’s and VST’s ranging from affordable to expensive.., and I have never seen anyone create a user style on any arranger (from scratch) that equaled or rivaled a manufacturers preset style. Not because they lacked the skill to do it, but because they don’t have access to the recording tools and software used by the manufacturers. I’m always creating my own styles on my arrangers, but I accept that regardless of my playing skills, I’m not going to be putting out a manufactures level of styles using the onboard style recorders. I simply take advantage of the incredible programming already done by the manufacturer for some style parts.

  • @SuperTabbywabby
    @SuperTabbywabby День назад

    Great machine had 1 but really hard to program but when done properly the results are amazing’ Jean Michel Jarre used it for part of his Revolutions album he knew how to deal with the D50 ❤

  • @HonorV2ultimate1tb
    @HonorV2ultimate1tb День назад

    Is there a smooth transition when selection one sound to the next?.....ie..the previous sound still rings on the keys pressed

  • @keithgriffiths3420
    @keithgriffiths3420 День назад

    Surely a man of your experience Woody can edit or even create your own styles. These styles are to encourage newbies to part with their money.

  • @michael_ua
    @michael_ua День назад

    We have to remember that arranger keyboards were designed exactly for entertainers working in clubs, restaurants, ships etc. to be able to play a bunch of popular songs. Some kind one-man-show. So if you need inspiring stuff you need to look at side of Avenger 2, Nexus 4 and similar VSTi. Also no one prevents you from creating your own original style.

  • @sreekanthnair
    @sreekanthnair День назад

    Most arrangers do offer user programmable styles. If you want to play your own song, make your own style! Much personalized than making 'hybrid' styles as mentioned. The learning curve may seem steep till you become proficient - but once you master it, style creation is easy. Or use the style creation bot found in Korg.

  • @covett
    @covett День назад

    That was awesome. Pity I didn’t catch you live. 🎉

  • @DihelsonMendonca
    @DihelsonMendonca День назад

    You nailed it. To create a personal new style with these arrangers is a pain in the bu**. Using a midi files are not ideal too. An external DAW is pointless but it's better. 🎉❤

  • @thegreat1548
    @thegreat1548 День назад

    So what's a good midi keyboard woody? I was thinking about going backwards and checking out its younger brother the keylab Mk2

  • @davidm3569
    @davidm3569 День назад

    Whoo Whoo chuff chuff 😁

  • @RonWesterbeek
    @RonWesterbeek День назад

    Stream is ok. So are you Woody. ( good to see you now and then 😅 ) Happy hour and continuations 🤸‍♀️👍

  • @jeffeason3599
    @jeffeason3599 День назад

    I really enjoyed this Woody! Some alt-Hornsby, reinterpreted classics…. Yeah, my wife would be happier if my keyboard practice sounded more like THIS and less of me spending 15minutes trying to find the perfect voicing for a phrase of some obscure 60s tune she doesn’t know anyway. 👍

  • @revstar3165
    @revstar3165 День назад

    The legendary preset 11 of the dx7

  • @pryce4267
    @pryce4267 День назад

    What are you playing it on

  • @kevinadams6370
    @kevinadams6370 День назад

    Is that the dgx 670

    • @MrYuryZ
      @MrYuryZ День назад

      Looks like it.

    • @ultrium2000
      @ultrium2000 День назад

      Yes, it does look like it., but I do not remember him reviewing one.

  • @dominiquefoucaud1988
    @dominiquefoucaud1988 День назад

    ❤ Qui écoute encore ça ? Hé les jeunes, sachez que vos grand-mères ont sûrement danser sur cette musique.... 😅

  • @Roboprogs
    @Roboprogs День назад

    If you just want to make a backing track and play over it, my Juno DS can do that. I’m pretty sure the Kross makes that easy as well. The styles on my Casio KBs are fun BECAUSE they are minimal. Some basic rhythms and arpeggiator like stuff driven by the “chord hint” from your left hand. I agree with other comments on here about the high end arrangers needing to have and make better use of an external monitor (e.g. support a mouse to quickly sail through options, rather than dozens of “D pad” presses).

  • @ZombieNightEntertainment
    @ZombieNightEntertainment День назад

    what is the song name at 3.30?

  • @lovepollypocket4576
    @lovepollypocket4576 День назад

    I play clawhammer banjo and this was my first banjo. It s ok, you can learn to pay the banjo on it. But you get what you pay for, a cheap banjo. 😉

  • @rayguitarwatson
    @rayguitarwatson 2 дня назад

    Was songwriting ever easy with no work required?

  • @timweinheimer1
    @timweinheimer1 2 дня назад

    Never know that was a patch lol

  • @tonygohagan2766
    @tonygohagan2766 2 дня назад

    I think it's because the Culture, Japanese, in which their made is Super-super innovative but also has a super Conformist lean and is less geared toward Independence than Collectivism; as a result there's probably a much higher ratio of highly skilled technically excellent Musicians happy to play Covers 'n' Classicals, in Japan/Korea than there are 'Bedroom Musicians/Producers' & 'Singer/Songers' in the US/Europe, even though both have huge populations. (PLS: Don't call me racist for only suggesting this! - just think through what underpins Culture in the East and West)

  • @Gerald_Daniel
    @Gerald_Daniel 2 дня назад

    That allegedly sllly preset was used on a very nice song by Sheila E: "Love On A Blue Train" .

    • @WoodyPianoShack
      @WoodyPianoShack 2 дня назад

      nice! silly because there were only 32 presets and this was one of them ;)

    • @Gerald_Daniel
      @Gerald_Daniel 2 дня назад

      @@WoodyPianoShack Honestly! I didn't like the sound when one of my DX5's cartridges spit it out. The main imoression was amazement 'bout Level/Rate ENVs possibilities. Anyway that preset fulfilled t's purpose. 🫠😆

  • @derekaustin6768
    @derekaustin6768 2 дня назад

    Liking Blue 3. Where can I buy it?? G-G Audio not functioning..

  • @Jarreenzo
    @Jarreenzo 2 дня назад

    Lol. I made a similar patch on a dx27 30 years ago by just randomly set values. 😂

  • @ChrisT-O
    @ChrisT-O 2 дня назад

    I totally agree with you, with the onboard styles you are limited as a music creator. It`s good for people, that like to cover famous songs, but for me it`s more interesting to create my own songs. So I often use multitrack recording, take only parts of the styles and create the rest by myself. One of my keyboards is the Thomann AK-x1100, which make it possible to create own styles, but it is too complicated and time consuming. My ideas for a song come spontaneous and I like to create it in time. I don`t like to work for days only for the accompaniment, then the idea and feeling for the new song is gone.

  • @HonorV2ultimate1tb
    @HonorV2ultimate1tb 2 дня назад

    Great video....but when selecting a different sound in the Deluxe version...does the first sound stop abruptly or is there smooth transition to the next sound? Thanks

  • @user-bf2wi4jy7w
    @user-bf2wi4jy7w 2 дня назад

    Just a clarification for those considering the KORG PA5X🎹: it’s correct that the PA5X “Song Book” feature contains numerous well known popular radio hit “titled Songs STYLES.” However, within each of the “categories of genres of STYLES of global music”there are many Styles that are not “Song Title” based, but are of a particular music style for playing one’s own Improvised (eg. Jazz or Country or Ballad or Rock, or World music, etcetera) instrumental 🎹🎶 or accompanying singing one’s own song. I have enjoyed playing creative improvisational music on the PA5X 🎹 for over a year now, and have never experienced being locked into playing someone else’s song or instrumental. Enjoy playing a PA5X 🎹🎶. Woody’s many keyboards review videos are informative & appreciated and enjoyed too - especially his contagious smile. 👍🤗🎹🎶

  • @KB-py6jd
    @KB-py6jd 2 дня назад

    So confused? I have SX900 when turning on a style I can only press the lower left chords which just change the styles chord. While playing melody with right hand? No way to play real left hand chords, make chord style change and play melody with the right hand at the same time? If i want real left hand chords I have to turn off the style?

  • @KB-py6jd
    @KB-py6jd 2 дня назад

    PSR SX900 QUESTION, I can not play real chords because I have to press the left side chord keys for the chords in the style to change. Anyone else thought how to overcome this?

  • @nonchai
    @nonchai 2 дня назад

    Guess what!? KORG just - finally - in latest 1.3 firmware update - added ability to EDIT chord sequences ( ie in their equivalent to the Yamaha 900/Genos Chord Looper ) :) Now i'm waiting for Yamaha to do same. Am v tempted to go for a PA5x 88 even thogh i think Yamaha styles sound better - why? because only KORG offer an 88 weigthed key version.....

  • @SergioCeccherini
    @SergioCeccherini 2 дня назад

    As another commentator suggested, try using just bass and drums and play as though you're in a trio. It's surprising how the cheesiness is much less obvious, and you can better your own playing too.

  • @ArexSant
    @ArexSant 2 дня назад

    I dont have some of these plugins, I downloaded my labs like in 2020. maybe they have new sounds? gotta check it out. Loved the synth strings, really old school sound. I dont have that one.

  • @midinotes
    @midinotes 2 дня назад

    I kind of agree but as I'm sure others have said, the ability of muting certain tracks, remixing parts between styles, changing the groove (time signature), revoicing styles.... I often use styles as the basis of a skeleton for a song. I agree you cannot help but play the songs that the styles were designed to showcase, but often I've reused them on multiple occasions. I guess we could go back to the even cheesier backing accompaniments of the 80s, casios, organs... and all that is possible on these keyboards. I'm a big fan of the built in sequencer, as well as using these keyboards as a master sound source for my DAW. Still the best acoustic and electric guitars 'out the box', strings, just a great user interface and quick way to get to bread and butter sounds. These arrangers ARE open ended, just load up new styles... thousands of them out there. Turn of the styles, use the arpeggios with the left hand ... I rest my case 😊 but still love your videos Woody!